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Tape 8 of Academy of Ideas presented by Landon Brady Saunders and others on 21 August 1989.
Academy of Ideas Tape 8 by Landon Brady Saunders and others on 21 August 1989, Landon Brady Saunders Papers, 1969-2022. Center for Restoration Studies MS #575. Abilene Christian University Special Collections and Archives, Brown Library. Abilene Christian University, Abilene, TX.
The opening line of this audio is: "It's something that we've not been able to measure..."